Everywhere commotion about each religion-but which religion will not condemn on other religions- Why there are many religions if your religion is true! Wow! you're in the wrong way-Why the same God allowed satan to create a bogus religions! you mean God wanted you to enjoy this planet but at the same time HE gave some trouble to YOU. Do you think that GOD created only a couple at the time of creation.Where does that satan come from? DO you think satan and GOD eternaly existed since time...You mean GOD created satan. If saten was created by GOD.HE is not so mercyful.But there is a different concept in reality. so GOD also has wicked nuture-right? If GOD not have that nature how HE can create a satan? Very un-appropriate theory.Find here the real peace of mind with explicit informations about supremely powerful cupid is so called God-Head.

Thursday, March 26, 2009

Is it god mercyful for everyone?

The word Satan is being used in this blog in many places due to lack of information’s from other religious lines. This chapter deals with freewill. From the previous chapter we understood that there is no possibility of Satan to exist to bind us in the material world. We have born in this material world and suffering in the cycle of birth and death. This repeated death and birth is caused of Maya-(Illusion). God’s shadow potency which binds us in three modes of nature. Now the question will be raised from the other end-why God has to make the living entities so weak to become entangled in Maya if he’s so merciful? In this chapter we are going to learn how God is so merciful for living beings and how we entangled in the boundary of material world.

It is true that God –Krishna is karunamaya, overflowing with mercy, however, He also lilamaya, overflowing with desire to perform pastimes. Desiring various pastimes to enacted in different situations, Sri Krishna made the living entities eligible for all conditions, from the marginal state to the higher state of mahabhava. And to facilitate to java’s progressing practically and steadfastly towards beoming qualified for Krishna’s service. He has also created the lower levels of material existence, beginning from the lowest inert matter up to the ahankara, which are the cause of unlimited obstruction in attaining paramananda-(Lord Krishna), having fallen from their constitutional position, the jivas who are entangled in Maya-Illusion are different to Krishna(God) and engrossed in personal sense gratification.
How-ever God is reservoir of mercy. The more living entity becomes fallen, the more Krishna provides him with opportunities to attain the highest spiritual perfection. He brings His about by appearing before him also with His spiritual dhama-(abode) and His eternal associates. Those jivas who take advantage of this merciful opportunity and sincerely endeavor to attain the higher position gradually reach the spiritual world and attain a state similar to that of Sri-Krishna’s eternal associates.

“Why must the living entities suffer for the sake of God’s pastimes?”

The living beings possess some independence. This is actually a sign of Bhagavan’s special mercy upon them. Inert objects are very insignificant and worthless because they have no such independent desire. The jiva has attained sovereignty of the inert world only because of his independent desire.

Misery and happiness are conditions of the mind. Thus what we may consider misery if happiness for one engrossed in it. Since all verities of material sense gratification finally result in nothing but misery, a materialistic person only achieves suffering. When that suffering becomes excessive, it gives rise to a search for happiness. From that desire, discrimination arises, and from discrimination, the tendency for inquiry is born. As a result of this, one attains sat-sanga (association of saintly people). Whereupon sraddha develops. When sraddha is born, the soul ascends to higher stage, namely the path of bhakti (devotion).

Gold is purified by heating and hammering. Being indifferent to God, the soul has become impure through engaging in mundane sense gratification. Therefore, he much be purified by being beaten up with hammers of misery on the anvil of this material world. By this process, the misery of the souls averse to God finally culminates in happiness. Suffering is therefore just a sign of Bhagavan’s-Gods’ mercy. That is why far sighted people see the suffering of souls in Krishna’s pastimes as auspiousness, though the near sighted can only see it an inauspicious source of misery.

Material existence-part two

If you missed out part one - what is material existence?
The conception of ‘I’ and ‘Mine’ are active in the conditioned state, but do they also exist in the liberated state?

They do, but in the liberated state of exist they are spiritual and free from all defect. In the liberated state in the spiritual world, the jiva becomes acquitted with his pure nature, exactly as it was created by Bhagavan. In the spiritual abode three are many different types of real egoism, each with its own characteristic sense of ‘I’ so there are also many types of cid-rasa(transcendental exchanges of sentiments) All the different spiritual paraphernalia, which form the constitutional ingredients of rasa, come under the heading of ‘Mine’.

“Then what is that defect in the different conceptions of ‘I’ and ‘mine’ that exist in the conditioned state?

The defect is that in the pure state, the conceptions of ‘I’ and ‘mine’ are real, whereas in material existence they are all imaginary, or imposed upon the living entity. That means that these conceptions are not actually aspects of the jiva, but are all false identities and relationship. Consequently, all varieties of material identification in mundane existence are impermanent and unreal, and only cause momentary happiness and distress.

“Is this deceptive material existence is false?”

No, this deceptive world is not false; it is a reality, by God’s will. It is the jivas conception of ‘I’ and ‘mine’ when he enters the material world that is false. Those who believe that this world is false are mayavadis, (Buddhist and others) advocates of theory of illusion. Such people are offenders.

“Why we fallen in this illusory relationship?”

Bhagavan is complete spiritual entity and the jivas are particles of spirit. The jiva’s first location is on the boundary line between the material world and spiritual worlds. The jiva’s who do not forget their relationship with Lord Krishna are empowered with cit-sakti (inconceivable potency), are drawn from that position in to the spiritual realm, where they become His eternal servants or associates and begin to relish the bliss of His service.

Those jivas who turn away from Krishna desire to enjoy Maya and Maya attracts them towards her by her potency. From that moment, our material state of existence comes into being and our true spiritual identity disappears. We therefore think, “I am the enjoyer of Maya”. This false egoism covers us with many varieties of false identities.

“Why is it that our true identity does not become manifest despite significant endeavor?”
There are two types of endeavor: appropriate and inappropriate. Appropriate endeavor will certainly dissipate false egoism, but how can inappropriate endeavors do so?

“What are in-appropriate endeavors?”

Some people think that their hearts will be purified if they follow karma-kanda, and that they will be liberated from Maya when they practice brahma-jnana. This type of endeavor is inappropriate. Others think that by practicing by astanga-yoga, they will enter a trance of Samadhi-yoga and attain perfection. This is another inappropriate endeavor; there are many other types of inappropriate endeavor as well.

“Why these are inappropriate endeavors?”

These methods are unsuitable because practicing them creates many obstacles that impede the attainment of one’s desired goal. In addition, there is only meager possibility of attaining that goal. The point is that our material existence has come about became of an offense, and unless we obtain the mercy of the person who we offered, we will not gain release from our material bondage and attain pure, spiritual condition.

“What are appropriate endeavor?”

Association of devotees is proper means. We find the following statement about sadhu-sanga (association of Devotees) in Srimad-Bhagavatam-(11.2.30)O, Sinless, we are inquiring from your about the supreme benefit. In this material world, even half a movement’s association with a sudha-bhaktas (Hari-devotees) is the greatest wealth for human beings.

“It is also stated in the Bhagavad-Gita (7.14) – The dive potency of mine, known as daivi-maya, consist of the three modes of nature- mode of goodness, mode of passion and mode ignorance. Human beings can not cross this Maya by their own efforts, and therefore it very difficult to overcome. Only those who surrender unto me cross beyond this potency of Mine.”

Now you may ask due to forgetfulness of God we have fallen into the hands of Maya, and are bound in this world. If we obtain Krishna’s mercy, we can be delivered again; other wise, will we remain in the same condition?

The answer for above query continues in the next chapter- Is it God mercyful for everyone?

Wednesday, March 25, 2009

Deity worship-No inclination

As many religions oppose the Deity worship and would say its all work of satan and its forbidden activity, but here how Deity worship is so powerful then worshiping something which has no form. You can learn more in this section about- "Deity worship provides more inclination".
Discussion begins as follows:Mullah: The inclination toward God can not be stimulated by worship of the Deity, because the mind of one who performs such worship always remains confined to the properties of matter.

Goracanda: We can understand the defect in your theory by studding the ancient historical accounts of those who became great devotee. Many people began to worship the Deity while they were neophytes, but as their devotional mood developed through the association of pure devotees, their realization of the transcendental and conscious nature of the Deity also increased, and eventually they became immersed in the ocean of prema (love).

The irrevocable conclusion is that sat-sanga (association with devotees) is the root of all spiritual advancement. When one associates with devotees of Bhagavan who are fully situated in divine consciousness, one awakens transcendental affection increases, the more this transcendental affection increases, the more the material form idea of the Deity vanishes and through great good fortune this divine consciousness gradually unfolds. In contrast, the advocates of non-Aryan religions generally oppose Deity worship, but just consider how many of them have attained spiritual realization. They waste their time in useless arguments and malice. When have they experienced true devotion to Bhagavan?

Mullah: There is no fault if one performs internal bhajana (chanting and other practices) of God in a mood of love, and externally engages in the worship of the Deity. However, how can it be worship of God to worship a dog, a cat, a serpent, or a debauchee? Our revered prophet, Paigambara sahib, has vehemently condemned such a worship of material objects.

Goracanda: All human beings are grateful to God. No matter how many sins they commit, occasionally they become aware that God is the supreme entity, and when they are endowed with this belief, they bow down before the extraordinary things of this world. When ignorant people are inspired by their gratitude to God, they naturally offer respect to the sun, a river, a mountain or to enormous animals. They express their heart before such things and display submission to them. Granted, there is a vast difference between this type of worship of material objects, and transcendental toward the Lord. Still, when such ignorant people adopt a mood of gratitude to God and reverence toward material objects, it gradually produces positive effect. Therefore, if one examines the situation logically, one can not find fault to them.

Meditation on the formless. All-pervading feature of the Lord and offering namaz or other types of prayers to an impersonal aspect of Lord are also devoid of pure transcendental love, so how are these methods any different from the worship of a cat, for example? We consider that it is essential to arouse bhava (thoughts-intension-reverence) towards Bhagavan by any means possible. The door leading to gradual elevation is firmly shut if people on any level of worship are ridiculed or condemned. Those who fall under the spell of dogmatism, and thereby become sectarian, lack the qualities of generosity and munificence. That’s why they ridicule and condemn others who do not worship in the same way as they do. This is great mistake on their part.

Mullah: Then must we conclude that everything is God. And that to worship anything all is worship of God? That would mean that worship of sinful objects or the sinful tendency is also worship of God? Do all these different types of worship please God?

Goracanda: We do not say everything is God. On the contrary, God is distinct from all these things, God creates and controls everything, and everything has relationship with him. The thread of that relationship runs through everything, and that is why one may inquire about the presence of God in all things. As one inquires in the presence of God in all things, one can gradually taste or experience the supreme transcendental and conscious entity. This is expressed in the sutra, jijnasa-asvadanavadhi; “Enquiry leads to experience.”
Hereby the discussion between Mullah and Goracanda finishes and it was not evident what conclusion Mullah Sahib reached as a result of discussion.

what is material existence?

Internet world is very huge and everyday new people coming to internet world for various purposes. Everything can be changed except one reality that is “Religious truth”. You may know that many religious websites or giant like Wikipedia from where people learning about on anything, But these websites can not provide the real truth about on any religions. The reason is that they never count the originality nor going to check the article from the person who submitted. I kindly request you to read the Vedas only from an authorized source. I came across that many people going for Wikipedia website to know about religions. No matter what religion might be. But to understand the real truth you need to approach a bona-fide guru who is following disciplic succession. You may get thousands of answers from these websites. But 99 % of them are unauthorized. Everyone can write an article about on any religion and upload it. All this wants for this websites are bunch of words to earn money from advertising revenue. As I mentioned do not approach those sites if you want to know about religion. Just follow an authorized religious websites if you truly want to attain the platform of spirituality.

In this chapter we are going to learn about what is material existence? What are they, how they are defined? Also some of the prominent answers about sin clubbed into this chapter as well. Now we start with this chapter- what is material existence?

The living entity in two states namely ‘the liberated state and the state of material bondage’. Those living entities who are pure devotees of Bhagavan and who have never been bound by illusion, or who were liberated from the material existence by the mercy of God(Krishna), are known as mukta-jivas-liberated souls. The liberated state of existence is known as mukta-dasa. The baddha-jivas (materially bounded) on the other hand, are those who are oblivious to Lord Krishna and have fallen in to the clutches of Maya-illusion since time without beginning. Their conditioned state of existence is known as samsara-baddha-dasa. The jivas (living entity) who are liberated from illusion are cinmaya-fully spiritual, and their very life is service of lord Krishna. They do not reside in this material world, but in one of the pure spiritual worlds such as Golaka, Vaikunda, or Vrndavana. There are innumerable jivas who are liberated from Maya-illusion.

The living entities are bound by illusion are also innumerable. Due to their defect of alienation from God. God’s shadow potency, known as chaya-sakti or Maya sakti (illusion), binds the living entities with in the three –stranded ropes consisting of the three qualities of material nature, namely sattava-guna-Goodness, rajo-guna-passion and tamo-guna-ignorance. The conditioned soul appears in a variety of states of existence, according to the influence of the various gradations of these modes. Just consider the varieties in the jivas body’s, moods, appearance, nature, living conditions and movements.

When the jivas enters material existence, he takes on a new type of egoism. In the pure state of existence, the living entity has the egoism of being a servant of Lord Krishna, but in the conditioned state, many different types of egoism arise, making the living entity, think, “I am a human being,” I am a Demi-god, I am an animal, I am a king, I am a brahmana, I am a outcaste, I am diseased, I am hungry, I am dishonored, I am charitable, I am a husband, I am a wife, I am a father, I am a son, I am an enemy, I am a friend, I am a scholar, I am handsome, I am wealthy, I am poor, I am happy, I am sad, I am strong and I am weak” and so on.

Beside this ahamta, another function known as mamata (possessiveness or the sense of my-ness) enters the nature of the jivas. This exemplified in attitudes such as; “This is my house, These are my children, This is my wife, This is my husband, This is my mother, This is my father, This is my caste, This is my race, This is my strength, This is my beauty, This is my beauty, This is my quality, This is my leering, This is my renunciation, This is my knowledge, This is my wisdom, This is my work, This is my property, and This is my dependants and servants. The colossal affair that brings the conceptions of ‘I’ and ‘Mine’ into play in known as samsara (material existence)

Now the question will be raised that the conception of ‘I’ and ‘Mine’ are active in the conditioned state, but do they also exist in the liberated state?
We’ll see this in detail in Material existence part two

What is sin?

Vedas is very profound and legitimate, that’s why everyone must have faith in it. If you want to realize the truth than finding a spiritual master is not a herculean task. Because Supreme God will deliver perfect teacher to you if you want to enhance yourself in spirituality, at the same time submission also absolutely must. Sin- this is very different aspect of view for other religions. Some religion say God created Satan to bound living entities as we learned from the previous article or chapter. But, only few and vastly learned people know the truth behind this aspect. As we gone through the existence of Satan in the previous article that there is no way or possibility that God might be created Satan to bound us in the circle of material world. But, what are causes of sin? How we are being implicated with sin? Are we doing this purposely or unknowingly? Even we can take this view as we are committing sin unknowingly. God will be forced to forgive everything what we do in the name of sin. So what is the real concept behind in this? Here our spiritual master will provide an authenticate answer for Mullah’s question. This discussion continues from the previous chapter.

Origin of sin as follow: Vidya (knowledge) understands that jivas (living entities) are servants of Bhagavan, and avidya (ignorance) is forgetfulness of this. All jivas who, for whatever reason, (what here is says whatever reason-we will find out more in detail in the next article) take shelter of ignorance sow the seed of all sins in their hearts. In the hearts of those jivas who are eternal servant of Bhagavan, there is no seed of sin. One should understand this truth of ignorance carefully, Instead of imaging an extraordinary myth about Satan. It means that it is not an offense to worship the Lord in material elements. Worship of the Deity is most essential for those of low spiritual eligibility, and it is particularly auspicious for people of high spiritual eligibility. In our opinion it is mere dogma to think that the worship of the Deity in not good. There is no logic or evidence from the sastras to support this position.
You can learn more about sin in detail- Chapter what is Material existence?

Is satan really exist?


As a great scholar Mullah asked in such way Goracanda not really surprised by that. Because he was so merciful and vastly learned about the Vedas. He always gives as best answer as possible to make Mullah to understand about Sanatana-Dharma. Also he explains in a simplest way that there is not possible way that Satan can exist. As you know that there few religions out there that always claims God created a Satan to make the living entities to bound in this material, but in reality the concept is very different. We’ll discuss this in another article. Now Goracanda explains for Mullah’s question.

Mullah :( Isn’t meditating on a form of the Lord within One’s mind superior to imaging a form with the help of the material elements?)

Now the Goracanda says to Mullah that both are one and the same. The mind follows matter, and whatever it thinks of is also material. We may say that brahma (god or formless god) is all pervading, but how can our minds actually conceive of this? We will forced to think of it in terms of the all –pervading of the sky. How can the mind go beyond this consideration? Our conception of brahma is therefore constrained by the limitation of material space.

If one says,” I am meditating on brahma,” the experience of brahma will be limited by material time, for it fades when one’s meditation is concluded. How can the mind’s meditation grasp an object that is above matter when it is conditioned by time and space, which are material phenomena? One may reject the idea that the form of the Deity can consist of material elements such as earth and water, and one can imagine that Isvara (Krishna or Bhagavan) is situated in the direction or space; still, this is all bhuta-puja, worship of matter.

No material object can support one’s attainment of the transcendental goal. The only thing that facilitates this is the awakening of the inclination to words Isvara or God. This inclination is inherent with in the jivatmas, and is gradually strengthened and converted into bhakti(devotion) when one utters the name of God, recites His pastimes, and receive inspiration from beholding the Deity (sri vigraha). The Lord’s spiritual form can be experienced only by pure bhakti, not by janana and karma.

Mullah: Matter is distinct from God. I think that it is better not to worship material objects, because it is said that Satan introduced the worship of matter to keep living entities bound in this material world.

Goracanda: God is one without a second, and He has no rival or enemy. Everything in this world is created by Him and is under His control. Therefore, He can be satisfied with any object when it is used in His worship. There is no object in this world one can arouse His malice, for He is all-auspicious. Even if a person such as Satan exist, he is no more then a special jivas (living entity) under the control of God. And he has no power to do anything that is opposed to God’s will. However, in my opinion it is not possible for such a monstrous living entity to exist. No activity can take place that is contrary to the will of Bhagavan, nor is any living entity independent of the lord.

From this above statement you can understand that there is no possibility of existence of Satan .what other religious people say about Satan. If you’re spiritually elevated you would ask-what is the origin of sin, if there is no Satan in this world. But now Goracanda explains very precisely for you and Mullah about origination of sin? The next article starts as follows: How human being implicated with sin?-from the great Vedas. (Hari bol)

Spiritual Qualification-part two

I hope you really amused by those explicit explanation from the great devotee of lord Krishna as Goracanda speaks about real truth and spiritual qualification, he continuously start this time with the word here ‘tradition”…

The Vaisnavas sampradayas (tradition) give this provision for people on these three levels of eligibility to worship the Deity. There is no fault in this, for it is only arrangement by which the jivas (living beings) can gradually attain auspiciousness. This is confirmed in Srimad Bhagavatam (11.14.26):

“O Uddhava, as the eyes that are treated with therapeutic ointment can see very minute objects, similarly, when the heart is cleansed of material contamination by hearing and reciting the narration of my supremely pure activities, it can see subtle transcendental form, which is beyond the purview of matter”.

The jivatma is covered by material mind, and in this state he cannot know himself or render service or to paramatma (who is living in our heart). However, by performing sadhana-bhakti-which consist of hearing, chanting and other devotional practices- the atma (soul) gradually develops spiritual power. As power increases, material bondage slackens, and the more material bondage is relaxed, the more the soul’s own natural function comes into ascendancy. Thus, one gradually develops direct perception of the self and Isvara- God and engages directly in spiritual activities.

Some people think one should endeavor to realize the Absolute Truth by rejecting all that is not truth. This is known as the cultivation of dry knowledge. What power does a conditional soul have to renounce objects that are not inherently real? Can a prisoner who is confined to a cell liberate himself simply by desiring to do so? His objectives should be eradicate the offense that has placed him in bondage. The jivatmas (living beings) principal defects is that he has forgotten that he is an eternal servant of Bhagavan and that is why he bound by Maya(illusion) and forced to suffer material happiness, distress and repeated birth and death in this world.

Although a person may initially be busy in sense gratification, if for some reason or another his mind becomes a little inclined towards Bhagavan, and he regularly takes worship of Deity and hears the lila-katha, his original nature of being the eternal servant of Krishna will be strengthened. The more strength this inherent nature develops, the more competent he becomes to perceive spirit directly. The only hope of spiritual progress for those who are the least spiritually qualified is to serve the Deity and to hear and chant about the Lord. That is why the mahajanas (great saints) have established serve to the Deity.

As a great devotee of lord Krishna Goracanda finishes for the query asked by Muslim scholar Mullah about the Deity worship and spiritual qualification. Now Mullah raising another question in the following way. Isn’t meditating on a form of the Lord within One’s mind superior to imaging a form with the help of the material elements?
Answer will be given in the title name from -Is it Satan really exist?

Spiritual Qualification

Spiritual qualification: My intention is not to hurt anyone here as this discussion took place in ancient times and precisely recorded in the form of book “Jaiva Dharma” compiled by Bhaktivinotha thakura who is learned scholar and great devotee of Bhagavan as well. If one wants to be a part of God then spiritual qualification absolutely must to bring back to our original and eternal nature. If one not able to find a right spiritual qualification then there He/She will be doomed.

The previous debate starts here from the word Beauty…

Goracanda replies for his question that if you accept the concept that God has six primary characteristic of opulence and beauty of the Supreme Being. It is then admitted that He possesses a splendid form in the spiritual world, which is distinct from the world of mundane matter. This is out dive Deity form.

Mullah: In out Quran it is written that the supreme entity has a divine all-conscious form, so we are compelled to accept this fact. However, any image of the spiritual form is material; that is what we call it “but””. The worship of “but” is not the worship of the Supreme Being. Please tell me your viewpoint on this.

Goracanda: In the Vaisnavas sastras there is a provision for worshiping the divine spiritual Deity form of Bhagavan. For the elevated class of devotees there no description has been given to worship material objects composed of Earth, Water, Fire, or other elements. It is said in Srimad-Bhagavatam (10.84.13)

“One who considers this corpse-like body, comprised of the three elements vata, pita, kapha, to be his real self; who considers mundane forms made of earth, stone, or wood to be worshipable; and who regards mere water to be a place of pilgrimage-but who does not consider the bhagavad bhaktas to be mere dear then his very pilgrimage; such a person, though human, is no better then an ass among animals.”

And again it is stated in Gita (9.25) - Those who worship matter to the realm of matter
He again starts with the word as follows: We see from these and many other conclusive statements that there is no basis in sastras for the worship of dead matter. There is an important point to consider in this, Human beings have different degrees of qualification according to their knowledge and eligibility. Only those who can understand pure spiritual existence are competent to worship the pure spiritual form of the Deity. One understands is proportionate to one’s development in this regard. Those whose spiritual qualification is extremely low can not understand the pure, spiritual state of existence. Even when such people meditate on the Lord within their minds, the form within the mind is the same as constructing a form of physical elements, and regarding it as the Lord’s form. That is why it is beneficial for a person on this level of eligibility to worship the Deity. To be honest, it would be most in-auspicious for the general class of people if there were no worship of Deities. When ordinary Jivas (living beings or human beings) become inclined toward the service of the Lord, the become despondent if they can not see the deity form of the Lord before them. In religious where there is no worship of the Deity, members are on a low level of spiritual qualification are highly materialistic and oblivious to Isvara. (God or Krishna)

The form of Paramesvara is reveled to the great learned scholars though their trance of unalloyed jnana-yoga, and they meditate on the pure, transcendental form in their hearts, which are purified by bhakti.(devotion) When the devotee’s hearts is revealed to the world after his continues meditation, the image of the Lord’s transcendental form is fashioned in the mundane world. The divine form of the Lord, having been reflected in this way by the mahajanas, has become the form of the Deity.

The deity form is always spiritual and conscious for those who are on the highest platform of eligibility. Those on the intermediate level see the Deity as endowed with perception and awareness. This means that the intermediate devotee has faith that the Deity is conscious of this thoughts and prayers, and accepts his mood of worship. However, the intermediate devotee, unlike the advanced devotee, does not directly perceive the Deity as the spiritual all-conscious form of Bhagavan (God). Those on the lowest level initially see the Deity as material, but in time, the Deity reveals His pure spiritual conscious form to the intelligence purified by spiritual Love. Consequently, the Deity form of Bhagavan is suitable to be worshiped and served by all classes of devotees. It is unnecessary to worship an imaginary form, but it is highly beneficial to worship Bhagavan’s (Krishna’s) eternal Deity form.

His debate continues in Spiritual qualification part 2

Tuesday, March 24, 2009

God’s six primary characteristics

As you know that we went through some of the best points here stated by Goracanda in the previous title. But here he continues his heated debate with word. Characteristic of God.
Conversation continued…by Goracanda

The first characteristic of Bhagavan is complete opulence which refers to the ultimate of greatness and minuteness. The second characteristic of God is that He is the most powerful, because He possesses all saktis (potencies) that which is beyond the reach of human intellect is governed by Isvara’s acintya sakti (God’s inconceivable potency),by which He simultaneously possesses form, and is formless. If one thinks that God can not have a form, one rejects His acintya-sakti (inconceivable potency) by which Krishna (God) manifests His eternal form and pastimes before His devotees. Allah, Brahma or paramatma (living soul in our heart) are formless (nirvaraga) so they do not have any special wonderful characteristics.
The third characteristics of Bhagavan is He always mangalamanya (auspious) and yasa-purna (all-famous). Therefore, His pastimes are full of nectar. His fourth characteristic is that He possesses all Beauty who is incomparable (saundarya), and all the living beings who are endowed with transcendental vision see Him as the most beautiful person. Bhagavan’s fifth characteristic is that He is pure, complete, omniscient, and transcendental to mundane matter. His form is the very embodiment of consciousness and it beyond all the material elements (bhuta). His sixth characteristic is that, unattached (nirlepa) and independent (svatantra). These are the Bhagavan’s (Krishna’s) six primary characteristics.

Apart from that, Bhagavan has two manifestations; His feature of aiswarya (majesty) and His feature of madhurya (sweetness). His sweetness manifestation is the supreme friend for the jivas, (Souls or living beings) and it is that personality, known as Krishna or Caitanya, who is the Lord of our hearts. You have said that worshiping some imaginary form of the lord is worship of material forms, but-parast (Arabic) or bhuta-puja (worship of matter in Sanskrit), and we also agree with that. The rule of the vaisnavas (devotees of Krishna or followers) is to worship fully conscious, eternal Deity form of Bhagavan. Therefore, idolatry (but-parast) is not part of the vaisnavas doctrine. (Sanatana dharma-eternal religion)

One should clearly understand that the Vaisnavas worship of the Deity is not idolatry. One can not prohibit Deity worship simply because some books forbid idolatry; everything depends on the quality of faith in the worshiper’s hearts. The more one’s heart can transcend the influence of matter, the more competent one will be worship the pure form of the Deity. You are learned scholar, the chief of Muslim scholar, and your heart may be free from the influence of matter, but what about those of your disciples who are not so learned? Are their hearts are free from all thoughts of matter?

The more one is absorbed in thoughts of matter, the more he will be implicated in the worship of matter. Although he may claim that lord is formless, his heart is still filled with thoughts of matter. It is very difficult for the general mass of people to worship the pure form of Deity, for such worship is strictly a matter of personal qualification. I sincerely request you to consider this subject very carefully.

By concluding in this way scholar Goracanda devotee of lord Krishna finishes his erudite answer for his question. The Muslim scholar again putting another very depth questions as follows to Goracanda.

Muslim scholar: I have considered your statement carefully. You say that Bhagavan’s refers to six astonishing attributes of the supreme, and I have concluded that the Quran Sharif describes the same six qualities in relationship to the word Allah. There is no point arguing over the meaning of the word Allah. Allah is Bhagavan.

Goracanda replies: Very good. If that is so….this debate continues in the title of Need of spiritual qualification
Kindly note: All the vedic point of views will not agree with any other religion. If you cleverly interpret this for your religious purpose,you'll be trouble by another. You may be a cleverest person now and can nicely interpolate this in your theory,but in future some one may come who may be very cleverer then you and He will easily refute your theory. So better not to try for attaching this into your line. My point can be understood only by if you bit elevated in spiritual path irrespective any religion.

Nature of God-Vedic view

Now we’re going to learn about God’s six primary characteristics from the Vedas-nature of God. No religion can provide such an erudite answers for this topic about nature of God. But this time around I am going to reveal by the mercy of blue color cupid. From the previous article you learned about whether God has a form or not? Similarly in this article you’ll find what would be his primary characteristics if He has form. Note that God’s features are inconceivable and can not be comprehended by any human through limited senses. God is so merciful and HE gave us limited version to understand about his primary characteristics in the form of Vedas. If one accepts the supreme he seeks further info about God. This information provides up to the maximum to understand between God and His primary characteristics. I am not much learned in spiritual subjects, but have the ability to bring the real truth about God from the Vedas. You may ask what is Vedas. We’ll discuss this topic in the next article.

In this single conversation between Muslim scholar and Vaisnava who is devotee of lord Krishna expresses about nature of God in the way of three main topics like God has a form or not, Idol worship God’s six primary characteristics and nature of God complied to gather.
This conversation took place between Muslim scholar Badrud-Din-Sahib and vaisnava Goracanda who is devotee of blue color cupid. Now the Muslim scholar who immensely learned about the scriptures asks the following questions. (This conversation can be found in detail in Jaiva dharma 11th chapter.)

Muslim scholar: Here we leaned from our Quran that Allah is formless and one can not conceive of that form which has no form. Anything that one who imagines of form is work of Satan. It is absolutely forbidden activity to do such a things to worship Him. Far from pleasing Allah, such worship only makes one subject to His punishment. We have heard from your original preceptor Sri Caitanya (incarnation of blue color cupid) who corrected all the faults in sanatana dharma, yet His tradition also makes provision for worshiping material form. Need your answer from your end. Scholar Goracanda amused by his question from Badrud-Din-Shahib and started his Vedic point of as follows.

Goracanda: He whom you refer to as Allah, we call Bhagavan. The supreme lord is one, but He is known by different names in Quran, the Purana's and in different languages’ and different countries. The prime consideration is that the name which expresses all of the Supreme Lord’s characteristics should be given prominence. For this reason we have greater esteem for the name of Bhagavan then the names Allah, brahma or paramatma.

Something that is exceedingly great inspires one type of wonder, but minuteness is counterpart to greatness, and it inspires another type of wonder. Hence, the name Allah does not express the highest limit of wonder because it expresses greatness but not minuteness. On the other hand, the word Bhagavan implies every type of wonder imaginable.

This conversation will be continued in the title of God’s six primary characteristics

God has a form or not?

As you know that this is another big concern for many people that “whether God has a form or not?” Some religions have accepted some are not. But, only quit a people willing to accept that God has a form. If someone says that god has no form then many insight questions will arise if one slightly engrossed in spiritual activities. I am not going to explain this in a professional way but, things in general what people speak one another, since I am bit aware of this concept. When a person submissively enquire himself/herself about spirituality for better understanding to know about God then spiritual progress is certainly possible. Because there is huge difference between material subjects and spiritual subjects. Once can not understand spiritual subjects through dry knowledge. Because we have to admit that we are still very limited in power to understand or see spiritual images or spiritual sounds and so on. Our material limitation will not allow us to go beyond our limited senses. Even is so called ocean has a limit, Himalaya Mountains or even a material space has a limit. So how you can find a real truth about this concept. No way- you need to surrender to the supreme blue color cupid. Now let’s come to the real topic about God has a form or not?

We are going to discuss this topic in different way for better understanding. Let’s assume now that God has no form. But, the question arises from spiritually elevated mind that how can’t be a formless? You know that God created us and we are all His children. If father itself has no form then how and where we came from? He is an absolute entity and we are minute entity and have an eternal relationship with each other. If one says God has no form, one has to reject the concept of eternal qualities and relationships with God. As I mentioned above since both entities have an eternal relationship with each other with undividable quality as well. What is undividable quality? Undividable quality can be considered as He has power in limitless degree, but we have power in minute degree. He is beautiful we’re all beautiful as well .He has a spiritual form we have a material form, He is full of knowledge but we are limited in knowledge, He is lifespan is never ending but we have limited version and so on. So here you can clearly understand that something is lacking if someone says God has no form. Even many religions say that after death we go to spiritual world or heaven to serve God. But, what if God itself has no form? If you unable to see God in spiritual places, then what is the credit for going there? Even in a material way we can easily realize that God has a form. One may raise the question how? If you’ve come from your parents, you also will have a form. If your Material father does not have a form, you won’t as well.

The second question arises in someone’s mind is” how God can have a form”. If He has a form how He can be pervaded everywhere? He can be only at one place at a time. As I mentioned above that we’re limited by time and space. Whatever we trying to perceive something which is above our material mind can not be seen or perceived by any means. This fact can be understood only by the mercy of God. Human cannot provide an example for all the spiritual subjects’ matters. Because both are incomparably different with each other. For instance, milk is material object. When you looked at Ferrari Enzo latest version in white color car on the road side, you can explain the real fact to some one that I saw a Ferrari Enzo which was in pure white color. but, what other person thinks while you’re explaining a word” pure white” his mind goes to “milk” and he can be understood how the color would be of that car even if he didn’t see that color. Similarly material subjects can go upto the maximum with material examples, but spiritual subjects won’t.

Let’s have an explanation about spiritual subjects. Now this subject can go upto the minimum in terms of relating God with material object. Sun is material and He can be considered as a God for better understanding. When some one says that God has a form -we can relate sun to find the qualities of each other. Sun has a form at the same time formless. Sun Planet can be considered as a form and His sunshine can be counted as formless. Power and possessor of power both are same -at the same time different. You may ask how this can be reconciled? Both are same at the same time different. When sunshine appears inside your room we call it sun shine, but we just don’t call it sun. If sun appears inside your room you won’t be alive. If there is no sunshine there won’t be a sun, if there is no sun there won’t be sunshine. Even though- sun is very far from your room his part is appearing inside your room. But if we compare Sun and God. God is incomparably greater then Sun. But, human can not find any example to provide the nature of God. So this comparison applicable only to a certain degree with sun, not with fullest. Now you need to accept the fact that God has a form at the same time formless. (You must thank to Bhagavad-Gita-Hare Krishna…)

Not all the religions are same

In the article we are going to look into that matter that how all the religions would be same! You know few people in this world are so called “spiritual maters” claiming that all the religions are same in terms of quality. How this can be reconciled? Let’s have look at this article to understand about different religions in a brief manner.

You know that there are eleven religions in the world. But, there are few popular religions out there like Christianity, Islam, Hinduism, Buddhism and so on. Very poplar and dominated even today. Let’s compare only these religions to understand each religion’s concept. By going through you’ll understand that in quality wise no religion is same. You know all the religions are teaching about there is one supreme entity who behind this entire cosmic manifestation. But, each religion is teaching the concept of God in a different way. Some religion has minimum knowledge about God; some religion has more details up to the human eligibility. It’s very prevalent in the world that one religion is criticizing on each other to prove which one is the best and legitimate.

Now we are going to compare top popular religions- Christianity, Islam, Hinduism and Buddhism. As far as general point of view the concept of each religion as follows:

Christianity –Birth date according to human calculation is 2000 years ago: You know that this religion is so popular all around the world. Now we are going to learn bit about the concept of Christianity. What Christianity teaches about God and its destination? The concept of Christianity is that God has a form. He created us according to His own image. You need to really consider that not all the religions aren’t same as I mentioned in the title, because not all the religions have the same concept like Christianity- image of God. Another concept they have like heaven and hell. Bible teaches that If one who leads a good life certainly goes to heaven, if one does opposite to that goes to hell. But, there is bit lacking information’s on how long one will be reside in heaven and hell. Because, one simply can not live in heaven permanently if he/she leads a good life. Not very surprisingly that Christianity claims that there is evil spirit makes human beings to do greedful actions .As far as other religions point of view. If one wants to reside in heaven one has to dedicate his/her life for God. In another way we can call it renunciation. But, not surprisingly Christianity also has a concept of life dedication for God.

Islam birth date according to human calculation is 1500 years ago:
The second religion we are going to understand is Islam in a concise manner. Islam teaches about God in a different way. We are going to know more about the real concept in another article. As like any religion Islam teaches that ‘’All the living entities created by one supreme entity” and He too does not have a form like a human. In some part of the world some claiming that God has a form, but they say in general it is not good thing to worship Him through material form with stone, wood, fire, earth and so on, by doing one leads to His punishment. Another concept they have is that one can become a God after death by becoming one with Him. So here it clearly indicates that everyone become a God after death by merging with Him. Islam also has a concept of Heaven and Hell as well.
Hinduism birth date

The third largest religion and very ancient religion in the world is Hinduism. This religion is very famous for Yoga and meditation methods. Hinduism has simple concept but has detail explanation about spirituality up to the human eligibility. The concept of Hinduism is that God has a form at the same time formless. He can be form at the same time formless. This concept may be very confusing for general mass of people anyway. But, you need to understand that by given methods. Not only has that Hinduism had millions of Gods with the concept of idol worship, also encouraging people to worship God by possible way to increase the power of spirituality. But, the real concept of Hinduism is God is one without a second and has no enemy at all. Bhagavad-Gita teaches that there is only one God but has millions of servants’ (Demi-Gods) in heaven to please Him. Hinduism has another unique features are called spiritual world, effulgence; heaven and hell which teaches far better then any other religion. Its also teaches why idol and animal worship is allowed in the scriptures for general people to understand about God. We’ll see detail explanation in another article.

Buddhism birth date is 2500 years ago:
Buddhism is second ancient religion in the world. This religion basically born in India by incarnation of lord Vishnu. The concept of this religion is very simple. How this religion came out since many people not willing to accept the concept of Buddhism? We will see detail explanation in another article. Buddhism also teaches that one can become a zero after death. To be honest they say “You are that”. They do not support Vedas like any other popular religions. Also they’re claiming there is no soul in the body of human. This entire material body is combination of material chemicals and so on.

So, here we went through about few major religions and the concept. Now you can clearly understand that how religions are different from each other. More ever I am going to bring some of the best and depth answers from the Vedas to make you understand about the religions by possible means. More questions and answers coming soon in the next article about religion and God.

Monday, March 23, 2009

Is it god truly existing?

This is not a new thought for everyone that whether GOD is existing or not? Some people would say-YES i believe in God,Some people say NO.because he/she says,i couldn't see God in front of me if He truly exist. Why some people say i believe in God? Is it because they gained some material objects for the senses from God? The existence of God can be seen various methods. 90% in this world who believe in God can be considered as blind faith. They go temple for worship and if the worship fulfilled,they accept that someone is there behind us, so we gained this profit. But, if the worship is not fulfilled they immediately reject the idea of existence of God. They say this is just a stone or wood and so on.

Since we are human have rational thoughts and its our obligation to find a object who is so popular all around the world.For instance,through scriptures.But what if someone does not want to relay on scriptures and say these were all created by a human,then we need to find a alternative ways to make him believe about God. In simple calculation i can put forward in this way-you came to this world from your parents and if there is no motivation behind the action, you wouldn't be here on this planet. But, who is motivating male and female. You say nature is motivating them. You can also consider to get the point in different way. People say this material world come by chance and no one behind in this creation. They do not know the true meaning of "by chance". By chance is something that things are happened without any support. But, what is the causes of "BY CHANCE"?. Here no one can provide a answer for this question?and no-one can give a answer in a consistence basis.

When some one is deaf can not listen the wonderful sound of outside world, in that case He/she says there is no sound. Similarly,If a human confined in a material senses can not be even smell the spiritual sounds or subjects. The existence of God can be perceived or seen only by spiritual progress. If you want to see God,then you must follow the rules and regulations of scriptures to perceive or to be seen. You can't say,i don't but want to see God if he truly exist. This theory can not be accepted. If you want to learn about computer,then you must follow the subjects stated by founder in the subject book. You can not follow you own path to learn about it. If you tried to do so. You aim will become null and void.