Spiritual qualification: My intention is not to hurt anyone here as this discussion took place in ancient times and precisely recorded in the form of book “Jaiva Dharma” compiled by Bhaktivinotha thakura who is learned scholar and great devotee of Bhagavan as well. If one wants to be a part of God then spiritual qualification absolutely must to bring back to our original and eternal nature. If one not able to find a right spiritual qualification then there He/She will be doomed.
The previous debate starts here from the word Beauty…
Goracanda replies for his question that if you accept the concept that God has six primary characteristic of opulence and beauty of the Supreme Being. It is then admitted that He possesses a splendid form in the spiritual world, which is distinct from the world of mundane matter. This is out dive Deity form.
Mullah: In out Quran it is written that the supreme entity has a divine all-conscious form, so we are compelled to accept this fact. However, any image of the spiritual form is material; that is what we call it “but””. The worship of “but” is not the worship of the Supreme Being. Please tell me your viewpoint on this.
Goracanda: In the Vaisnavas sastras there is a provision for worshiping the divine spiritual Deity form of Bhagavan. For the elevated class of devotees there no description has been given to worship material objects composed of Earth, Water, Fire, or other elements. It is said in Srimad-Bhagavatam (10.84.13)
“One who considers this corpse-like body, comprised of the three elements vata, pita, kapha, to be his real self; who considers mundane forms made of earth, stone, or wood to be worshipable; and who regards mere water to be a place of pilgrimage-but who does not consider the bhagavad bhaktas to be mere dear then his very pilgrimage; such a person, though human, is no better then an ass among animals.”
And again it is stated in Gita (9.25) - Those who worship matter to the realm of matter
He again starts with the word as follows: We see from these and many other conclusive statements that there is no basis in sastras for the worship of dead matter. There is an important point to consider in this, Human beings have different degrees of qualification according to their knowledge and eligibility. Only those who can understand pure spiritual existence are competent to worship the pure spiritual form of the Deity. One understands is proportionate to one’s development in this regard. Those whose spiritual qualification is extremely low can not understand the pure, spiritual state of existence. Even when such people meditate on the Lord within their minds, the form within the mind is the same as constructing a form of physical elements, and regarding it as the Lord’s form. That is why it is beneficial for a person on this level of eligibility to worship the Deity. To be honest, it would be most in-auspicious for the general class of people if there were no worship of Deities. When ordinary Jivas (living beings or human beings) become inclined toward the service of the Lord, the become despondent if they can not see the deity form of the Lord before them. In religious where there is no worship of the Deity, members are on a low level of spiritual qualification are highly materialistic and oblivious to Isvara. (God or Krishna)
The form of Paramesvara is reveled to the great learned scholars though their trance of unalloyed jnana-yoga, and they meditate on the pure, transcendental form in their hearts, which are purified by bhakti.(devotion) When the devotee’s hearts is revealed to the world after his continues meditation, the image of the Lord’s transcendental form is fashioned in the mundane world. The divine form of the Lord, having been reflected in this way by the mahajanas, has become the form of the Deity.
The deity form is always spiritual and conscious for those who are on the highest platform of eligibility. Those on the intermediate level see the Deity as endowed with perception and awareness. This means that the intermediate devotee has faith that the Deity is conscious of this thoughts and prayers, and accepts his mood of worship. However, the intermediate devotee, unlike the advanced devotee, does not directly perceive the Deity as the spiritual all-conscious form of Bhagavan (God). Those on the lowest level initially see the Deity as material, but in time, the Deity reveals His pure spiritual conscious form to the intelligence purified by spiritual Love. Consequently, the Deity form of Bhagavan is suitable to be worshiped and served by all classes of devotees. It is unnecessary to worship an imaginary form, but it is highly beneficial to worship Bhagavan’s (Krishna’s) eternal Deity form.
His debate continues in Spiritual qualification part 2
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